The longevity debate isn’t on the horizon - it’s raging right now.

Are you building a future-proof body - or waiting for perfect proof while your performance stalls?

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In this episode of the AI On Podcast, I host a ringside clash between two AI experts with opposing playbooks: clinical strategist Dr. Camilla, and frontier biohacker Elias. 

Forget recycled wellness tips: this is a high-voltage argument about how aggressively you should act to stay sharp, strong, and enjoying life.

🔥 In this conversation, we dig into
✅ The #1 myth sabotaging midlife healthspan - and who profits from it
✅ Camilla’s evidence threshold vs. Elias’s “n = 1, then scale” philosophy
✅ Making it real for people in their 40s and 50s
✅ The hidden risks both sides refuse to cross 

Camilla fires statistics like precision missiles; Elias counters with quantified-self datasets and an invitation to experiment or be left behind. Whether you want proof or progress, you’ll take away new perspectives.

Important: This episode is for informational & entertainment purposes only. None of the discussion is medical advice, and legality varies by jurisdiction. Always consult qualified professionals before acting.

Camilla and Elias were voiced with ElevenLabs TTS technology.

Books recommended by our guests

📖 Successful Aging — Daniel J. Levitin
📖 Lifespan: Why We Age—and Why We Don’t Have To — David Sinclair
📖 The Art of Learning — Josh Waitzkin